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2662 Kaowen‘s Decision

Beitragvon jerrys109 » 26. Juli 2018, 00:47

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No. 2662
Kaowens Entscheidung
Kaowen‘s Decision
by Arndt Ellmer

After the destruction of the shipyard APERAS KOKKAIA and QIN SHI's disappearance, Kaowen, as directed, goes to the Shikaqin Viibad in the other part of the double galaxy Chanda. He seizes command of the fleets stationed there, guarding an area protected by a camouflage field. But many commanders do not think of submitting to him. Kaowen executes those who want to follow QIN SHI to Escalian. Ironically, soon after parts of the fleet receive orders to do just that. Kaowen should stay behind. But meanwhile, Kaowen receives new units as reinforcements.

This includes cone ships of the Dosanthi dedicated to the Desperate Resistance because QIN SHI wanted to depopulate their homeworld Meloudil with the World Scourge. They attack the Xylthe ships. Tokun Gavang and his ilk are using their Para-ability to drive the Xylthes into panic and suicide. But there is a security measure that the Dosanthi did not know about. Kaowen can destroy their spaceships remotely. Thus, the uprising threatens to be crushed. However, the fighting rekindles, as the Chuferan and the fleets from Plepsons intervene on the Dosanthi side. The camouflage field goes out. A planet becomes visible. The world without an atmosphere is covered by a quasi-organic substance whose surface forms countless Oracca faces. Tokun Gavang's consciousness becomes paralyzed.

Meanwhile, Ramoz is trying to bring the fleet of seven hundred sixty-five thousand units gathered in the Cold Space under his control. His goal is to destroy QIN SHI. The fleet, however, has no energy. That is where the BASIS supply sphere comes in; Perry Rhodan returns to the Cold Space with this ship and other units. Within a few days, the supply sphere provides the required energy by tapping the sun inside it and feeing it through the blue crystals floating inside. Rhodan has misgivings about the use of the fleet because it was originally provided by the Oraccameo race, which is believed to have evolved into QIN SHI (although Högborn Trumeri persistently refuses to say anything on the matter), so QIN SHI may have set security codes for these ships.

In the meantime, Nemo Partijan examined Anaree’s star gem. Although it is a forgery and does not allow access to the Moral Code of the Universe, it does have some amazing qualities. Suddenly, Partijan's laboratory sets off a serious explosion. Hyperenergy is released. Ennerhahl says that Partijan is not supposed to be alive anymore, but the scientist claims that he is unharmed. After a conference on December 1, 1469 NGZ, in which Rhodan claims command of the fleet, Ramoz is to lead the ships from the Cold Space. But something seems to go wrong. Structural vibrations and hyperspace tears arise. Rhodan watches the MIKRU-JON's shell begin to collapse ...

2663 The Anchor Planet

Beitragvon jerrys109 » 11. August 2018, 02:33

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Der Anker-Planet
The Anchor Planet
By Christian Montillon

Ramoz brings the Cold Space - a bubble within the Psionic Net - to collapse, because he ignored the warnings of an Oraccameo - hologram about pulling too much energy in the bubble too quickly, in order to quickly charge up the many ships of the mothballed fleet. The BASIS supply sphere pumps more and more energy into the Cold Space until the hypercrystals floating there are overloaded. The Psionic Net is restored to its original state as it expels the energy, causing severe hyperstorms. Although the starships of the ancient fleet materialize in normal space, one hundred fifteen thousand units are destroyed by it (and two hundred fifty-three thousand were previously irreparably damaged), while countless others must also be considered a total loss or repaired first. Only about one hundred thousand ships are ready to fight. In the starship ZASA , which Ramoz had declared his flagship , a meeting is called on December 6, 1469 NGE to determine what to do next. A reconnaissance mission consisting of the MIKRU-JON and Ennerhahl’s light cell is sent to check out QIN SHI’s anchor planet.

Kaowen's fleet is standing by there. A splinter of QIN SHI joins with the Protector. It comes to fighting insurgent Dosanthis and ships of other races, which appear as the planet Shikaqin becomes visible. Particularly dangerous are the Quolnä Keretzen, against whose flash wave the Xylthes cannot protect themselves. Perry Rhodan uses the chaos of the space battle to approach the planet. Meanwhile, Nemo Partijan has found out that Anaree’s purported star jewel contains "predetermined breaking points" that allow the explosive release of the stored therein hyper-energy. The jewel is shot at the planet after Gucky has telepathic contact with the living world. The mousebeaver recognizes that there the consciousness contents of QIN SHI devoured by the World Scourge continue to exist and serve as an anchor for the superintelligence. Their agony is endless and they long for final death.

The star jewel explodes. The organic matter that covers the planet is destroyed within seconds, QIN SHI’s anchor is destroyed. Nemo Partijan theorizes that Samburi Yura had delivered them the star jewel for just this purpose. Kaowen survives. He knows who he owes the newest defeat to.

2664 Behind the Planet Wall

Beitragvon jerrys109 » 3. September 2018, 04:01

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Hinter dem Planetenwall
Behind the Planet Wall
by Hubert Haensel


Arun Joschannan is elected First Terran of the LFT on 1 January 1470 NGE. Just a few weeks later, he sets off for his first major official mission. On 1 February, he will represent the LFT at the Eastside Conference, in which almost all the Jülziish races, as well as delegations of the Akones, Topsiders and other races will participate. Thereafter, Joschannan wants to accept an invitation from the Theatrum system, which had been sent two years ago. Joschannan wants to convince the independent system to enter the LFT. Henar Maltczyk, the Secretary of the First Terran, is worried, because according to a report from Travnor, an assassination attempt on Arun’s life is planned. Joschannan travels with the TYLL LEYDEN, accompanied by two other warships of the APOLLO class. He meets with Admiral Ipthey-Hüriit, an Apaso, at the Nabeg Solar Pentagon. Ipthey-Hüriit accompanies the Terran ships with fifty of his own ships. He tells Joschannan about an observation he had made on January 2nd. Three discus ships of unknown ownership armed with heavy interval cannons had flown about in the middle of a Hyper-hurricane, possibly using a Tryortan gullet as a means of transport. Other ships of this type were tracked during the connecting flight. It remains questionable whether they were Blues ships, because they were superior to everything that Ipthey-Hüriit knows.

The Eastside conference takes place on one of seventeen identical planets on the Khamashnam Planet Wall. Quicheramo Blues had discovered the system a long time ago, but until now its existence had been concealed. Now it was proposed that the system is to be put under the administration of the Galacticum, because it is one of seven of the Old-timers built Suprahet - trap systems. This agenda item remains open, but it is decided, among other things, that the Galactic ATLAS EXPLORER fleet will operate increasingly actively in the Southside. Henar Maltczyk finds out that the Jülziish, fearing Arkonide dominance, is keen to bring the Akones and LFT closer together. Joschannan, who has already earned Ipthey-Hüriit's respect, is nicknamed "Honest Arun" because of his open nature at the conference.

The journey continues towards the Theatrum system. On the way, Ipthey-Hüriit's escorts get lost in a hyperstorm. The TYLL LEYDEN picks up an emergency call from the Terran trade ship WELLS FARGO, which is allegedly being attacked by the mysterious discus ships. As it could be a trap, Joschannan and his secretary stay back with a corvette, while the three APOLLO battleships rush to the rescue of the WELLS FARGO and its sister ship WESTERN UNION. Three Discus ships promptly appear and attack the corvette. The pilot Vanessa Pateng can get the corvette to superluminal flight, but the drive and life support systems are damaged. The corvette falls back into normal space and must land on the desert world Mackurat.

For a diversion, the entire crew except for the pilot and Captain Tyll Brager exit with two Shifts, while robots are simultaneously discharged. The discus spacers follow and capture one of the Shifts. It becomes clear that they are trying to capture the First Terran. Joschannan and his companions have to hide in a cave inhabited by giant wasp like creatures, but are tracked down there. Once again, they manage to escape, and on February 8, finally, the APOLLO ship and one hundred spaceships of the Jülziish commanded by Ipthey-Hüriit arrive from the Khamashnam system. Two of the foreign discs are destroyed, but the third escapes. The examination of the wrecks does not yield any usable results. The techniques used by the unknown builders is not of a specific Blues origin; it could just as well come from the Arkonides. They may be part of the Badakk infiltrated Ark'Tussan Factor.

Is anyone out there?

Beitragvon jerrys109 » 3. September 2018, 04:03

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Hello,
I'm just curious if anyone is still reading these synopses I'm putting up.


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Jerry

Re: Synopsis by jerry

Beitragvon M13 » 4. September 2018, 01:02

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Hi Jerry,
I do. And I appreciate your effort!

No 2664 is about six years back in time for me. Nevertheless, I think it's important to have English language synopsis around for all international lurkers and people who do a Google search about a specific installment. Don't think that Google Translate with German synopsis at Perrypedia will do a good job. See here:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.perrypedia.proc.org%2Fwiki%2FHinter_dem_Planetenwall

I had some laughs with "Handelsraumer" translated to "Trading room".
At a different occassion "Raumer" was translated to "Spacer".

A second source for automatic translation could be the "spoiler forum". Let's see how this will work with No 2664:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.perry-rhodan.net%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D4%26t%3D1100%23p44345&sandbox=1

Here the original German links:
https://www.perrypedia.proc.org/wiki/Hinter_dem_Planetenwall
https://forum.perry-rhodan.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1100#p44345

No, no, no.
Jerry, please go on!

Maybe it will help if you add some personal comments to the synopsis?
That could trigger some discussion here.

Best,
Uwe

Re: Synopsis by jerry

Beitragvon Klenzy » 4. September 2018, 13:04

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We would have preferred to be able to offer good quality english translations at Perrypedia. As we have more than 40 000 articles now, it is simply impossible. Not only we'd have to translate once every article, but we'd have to keep track of all ongoing changes to existing articles. Way too much work for the small number of perrypedianauts. So we have decided to include Google translator instead, which gives you immediate access to the complete perrypedia at the moment.

Of course, automatic translation is far from being as perfect as the arkonide translators in our series. But when comparing the above posted link against Jerrys synopsis, you can see that large parts of the automatic translation are not soooo bad. Just think about mistranslations as being jokes.

We do not want to disencourage anyone, not Jerry nor anyone else, to place their own work here, you're really doing a great job here.
Mach langsam! Das Leben ist zu kurz, um sich zu beeilen.

Re: Is anyone reading

Beitragvon jerrys109 » 14. September 2018, 01:05

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Thanks for responses guys. Yes, Google Translate and the other software packages do give some funny translations, but it's a good place to start, and using multiple packages i end up with fairly good results. When I retire in a few years, I'll probably try to actually learn German, even though I am lousy at languages. :>

Uwe, I'll try adding some personal thoughts when I can think of some. :P :st:

By the way, Uew, you aren't the Uwe Anton are you? That would be so cool.

Jerry

2665 Secret of the Circus World

Beitragvon jerrys109 » 14. September 2018, 01:26

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Geheimnis der Zirkuswelt
Secret of the Circus World
by Marc A. Herren

Thea, a former Free Trader world in the Southside on the doorstep of the Jülziish, was settled a long time ago by the predominantly Terran crew of a circus ship in distress. The renowned Theas Circus Academy has produced several tamers and other artists known throughout the galaxy. The main economic factor there is the trading of goods, but the planet itself is considered insignificant. This could change if the Theatrum system were to join the LFT. Arun Joschannan, who visits the circus world on February 9, 1470 NGE, is there to promote this idea. First, the First Terrian is led through the capital Dolina Salamonski by Nuggnugg, an old native Topsider. The Topsider bodyguards Tork-Trak and Onttril-Gukzz are not the only protection Joschannan relies on. The JULES VERNE orbits the system, protected from sensors, and ten Posbi-BOXES are in a waiting position a few light years away. Ronald Tekener has learned during the interrogation of the Sayporan Marrnuur that the First Terran is to be kidnapped on a circus world. When the Smiler also receives the news that Sayporans are on Thea, he goes to Dolina Salamonski in a bioplast mask to warn Joschannan.

The kidnapping takes place during a speech by Joschannan on February10. The attackers have high-quality shields and weapons at their disposal. The LFT bodyguards have nothing to oppose this. There are dead and injured, and Tekener is paralyzed. Joschannan, his secretary Henar Maltczyk, the two Topsider bodyguards and other people are brought to the island of Osa Mariga, as it is soon discovered. Tekener follows the kidnappers with the hunting cruiser NAUTILUS III, but a folk festival is taking place on Osa Mariga, so that Tekener cannot use heavy weapons. A commando team led by him arrives too late. The kidnapped were already received by the Sayporaner Stradsoider and transported by means of a transit parquet to another location. The Terrans capture and evacuate a village inhabited by several hundred Sayporans and Badakks in pagoda style tents on the island. There are also at least forty Earth children, who apparently voluntarily stayed with the Augurs. Two three hundred meter spaceships, which were reported stolen seventeen years ago and now contain genesis plasma basins, are being examined. A flight recorder can be read on February11. Tekener figures out from it that the Sayporans maintain another base on the moon of the seventh planet.

In fact, Tork-Trak and Onttril-Gukzz are already being interrogated there by the Sayporan Chourweydes, who is much more aggressive than Stradsoider. As the JULES VERNE approaches the base, some of the spaceships parked there - including two Spenta nail ships - attempt to escape. One nail ship is shot down, while the others escape. Landing troops penetrate the base and quickly take out any resistance. While Chourweydes cooperates, Stradsoider fights to the last and is stabbed. Despite everything, Tekener seems to be too late again: Joschannan is already in a basin with genesis plasma...


This issue was a fun read. There was plenty of action and I enjoyed seeing some attention paid to how the LFT works. And then we finally have the return of Ronald Tekener! I’ve missed him and the USO very much. Hopefully the USO will play a role soon.

The issue had a nice mix of alien slice of life to Galactic politics. I sometimes find it hard to translate the issues focusing on alien histories because of the alien terminology. At the same time though, it makes it all the more rewarding to finish an issue and thereby understand a race better.

Re: Is anyone reading

Beitragvon M13 » 17. September 2018, 13:47

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jerrys109 hat geschrieben:… By the way, Uew, you aren't the Uwe Anton are you? That would be so cool.
Jerry


No, Jerry. I'm so sorry, I'm not Uwe Anton.
Oh, and thank you for your personal comments on No 2665, Secret of the Circus World!

Best,
Uwe

2666 The Pyramid of the Badakk

Beitragvon jerrys109 » 28. September 2018, 02:25

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2666
Die Pyramide der Badakk
The Pyramid of Badakk
by Arndt Ellmer


The Badakk symbiont did not have enough time to take over Arun Joschannan completely. The genesis plasma cannot be removed completely. Joschannan remains in control of himself, but develops a very healthy appetite, which is due to the additional energy needs of the Badakk. Since nobody knows if and how the symbiont evolves and if Joschannan might lose his free will, he is under constant surveillance. Gashwa Perkat, an Oxtornian Specialist from the JV-1 receives the order, to liquidate the First Terran, if necessary.

Joschannan can feel the presence of other Badakks. After the population of Thea has been informed about the actions of the foreign invaders, Joschannan can move freely on Thea. In a meeting with the planetary circle of directors he realizes that numerous people in high positions have been taken over by the Badakk. The afflicted can be identified with Joschannan’s help and rendered harmless. In the meantime, the true extent of the infiltration is becoming known. Hundreds of circus spaceships are transporting equipment of Sayporaners through the Milky Way, so there are probably genesis plasma pools and transit parquets on countless planets. Ronald Tekener will pass on this information later. When examining the circus ship REGULUS, it becomes clear that the transport containers for these items were provided by the company Wettach, whose director is one of the infested. In addition, it is observed how the escaped spaceships from the lunar base disappear in Tryortan gulliets.

A Posbi of the JULES VERNE directs the storming of the Wettach Company premises with TARA-battle robots. There he discovers a pyramid consisting of two thousand five hundred networked Badakks. In this way, these beings are likely to gain superior skills. The pyramid is destroyed, but it cannot be prevented that the entire area is destroyed by huge atomic explosions that were triggered by the Badakks. Then the Sayporaner Chourweydes is interrogated by Joschannan. The Sayporaner agrees to contact the Spentas in the last remaining nail ship. He moves them grant the Galactics access to their ship. For this purpose, the ship is transported to Urengoll.

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I really enjoyed this issue. There was plenty of action, we get plot line movement and more of the Galactic Gambler, Ronald Tekener. Cracks are starting to appear in the ranks of QIN SHI's forces and we are beginning the slow climb to the climax of this cycle. I hope the fun keeps coming. Nothing like a little intrigue and battle scenes to spice up the story.

2667 The Diplomat from Maharani

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The Diplomat From Maharani
Der Diplomat von Maharani
von Michael Marcus Thurner



Based on the insights gained on Travnor and Thea, the Galactics are finding Badakks and Sayporaners everywhere in the Milky Way. On Arun Joschannan’s request, the USO works together with foreign secret services. The First Terran wants to seize the opportunity to improve relations between the Milky Way peoples. The actions are successful. It seems the Theatrum system was the starting point of the enemy’s activities. While the Sayporaners accept captivity, the Badakkd usually fight to the last and destroy themselves so as not to fall into the hands of the Galactics. Further Galactics "turned over" by genesis plasma are exposed and young people are freed again. One of them is Joschannan's son Caio Antwan. The medics try in vain to heal the adolescents changed in some unknown manner. In Caio's case, it is aggravating that his relationship with Joschannan was never very good - at first the First Terran fails to reason with his son. As before, Joschannan is accompanied every step of the way by his Oxtorner "Bodyguard", because it is still not clear whether the genesis plasma is continuing to spread through his body. Since excessive hunger is a bad sign, Joschannan does without many a meal.

On the 21st and 22nd of February 1470 NGE the Badakk interned at the USO base T9 as well as on the extreme world Trankun belonging to the Arkonide Empire undertake outbreak attempts. In some unknown way, the enigmatic beings manage to sabotage and take over all sorts of technical devices. Apparently, the Badakks use nanotechnology, which is hidden in their bodies for it. Ronald Tekener bombards a corvette hijacked by the Badakks, although the fate of the USO crew is unclear. The Badakks destroy the ship before it can be captured. The Sayporaners, especially Chourweydes , show to be a bit more accessible. However, many of them are getting worse and worse physically. Joschannan speaks several times with Chourweydes, but does not quite mange to get close to the Sayporaner, because the mindset of this people is so foreign to the Terrans and Chourweydes likes to speak in riddles. Joschannan demands that the manipulation of the young people be reversed. In this point, Chourweydes turns out to be surprisingly cooperative. He guarantees the "reconstitution" of the young people.

The study of the Sayporaners shows that these beings do not have uniform genetic material. Chourweydes reports that every Sayporan must periodically incorporate foreign organs into theirs to survive. The same must be done if the captive Sayporaners are to be rescued. Since cloned organs are not good enough, Joschannan must allow the Sayporans to access humans. Joschannan turns to Faroz Khalai, Caios attending physician. The man belongs to the Parsen religion. The Parsees do not burn or bury their dead but leave the dead corpses to the birds in open air ceremonies. In such a sky burial, the Sayporans may take over the role of birds on the 1st of March. Grateful, Chourweydes tells the First Terran of his people and the targets of the invasion.

On the 4th of March, Joschannan takes part in a meeting of the Secret Security Advisory Council, made up of representatives of many Milky Way peoples, on Aurora. All the captured Badakks are now dead. The "doubles" are free, because the genesis plasma in their bodies is decomposing. The Badakks have "treated" not only Galactics with the genesis plasma, but also Sayporaners. The liberated young people are on their way to recovery, Joschannan and his son begin to talk to each other again. All known hyper-storm areas where Tryortan gullets may arise are guarded by warships. Despite all this good news Bostich still cautions the others that the war is far from over, and that this is currently just the calm before the storm...
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This issue was a lot of fun, which is usual for anything involving Ronald Tekener and the USO. You get action, intrigue and some actual resolution to problems. But now we return to Alaska Saedelaere, so we should get to see some weird stuff, as the Mask Bearer always ends up mixed up in cosmic events. :>

2668 Neuntau

Beitragvon jerrys109 » 13. Oktober 2018, 05:15

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Neuntau
by Christian Montillon

Alaska Saedelaere is en route with the cylinder ship SHEYAR to the dwarf galaxy Dranat. There he hopes to find the designer Sholoubwa, because in Dranat are the construction planets on which the petals of the Time Rose were created. Eroin Blitzer recognizes that there are two suns orbited by construction site planets that are identical and connected by hyperenergetic lines. He assumes that Sholoubwa's main world, which monitored the construction of the Time Rose, is at the intersection of the connecting lines. On Saedelaere’s command (as an inharmonious on board, Blitzer has nothing to report) the SHEYAR flies to the target point and discovers a planet. There is a gigantic city, but no life there. The robots of Sholoubwa's Techno-guard lie around disabled, and everything seems to have been crumbling for centuries or millennia. This also applies to Nicomus Neuntau, a dwarf droid, whom the two encounter. He was left behind by Sholoubwa a long time ago and is gradually falling apart.

Blitzer is not pleased to see an example of his own transience in Neuntau. Neuntau is not happy with Sholoubwa and willingly provides information to the visitors. Neuntau was commander of the cobalt blue cylinder SCREW-B and served Sholoubwa at the behest of the Cosmocrats. Apparently there were differences at a certain time between Sholoubwa and his clients, because one day he could no longer enter his own tower, the heart of the entire system, and so he disappeared. Neuntau knows where to find Sholoubwa now and agrees to lead them to him. The journey continues into the Nahroin system, filled with planetary debris and gigantic aggregates created from it. There, the SHEYAR is subjected to various hyper-energetic phenomena. Nevertheless, Saedelaere, Blitzer and Neuntau manage to land on the third planet.

There are shifts in reality that allow Saedelaere to see images of the past. The planet has been mercilessly exploited for a long time without regard to its inhabitants. A large area is filled with huge, still under construction and interconnected Positronics, Sholoubwa statues and Sontaron generators. A humanoid statue, enthroned on a pyramid, appears to be Sholoubwa. Saedelaere speaks to him and learns that the designer is about to create something called Free Space - an activity to which he seems desperate to do. During the conversation, Eroin Blitzer taps into Sholoubwa's memories. Sholoubwa carries the visitors to another location with a transmitter field. There natives lead a hopeless fight against Sholoubwa's robotic construction machines. Neuntau is hit by a spear and dies, which he is not unhappy about. Since Saedelaere and Blitzer have nothing better to do anyway (their protective suits are inoperative), they look into Sholoubwa's memories, which Blitzer had been able to download...

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We seem to be on a roll here. This was another issue that I enjoyed, with a mix of action, answers and new questions. I've always found Alaska to be the Sad Sack of the immortals, even if a very capable one. He is doomed to be dumped on by fate, but he keeps carrying on, trying to do what's right. I know that his search for Mistress Samburi will eventually hook up to Perry eventually. It'l be fun to see how it happens. I imagine that they'll probably meet soon after one of them finds her. Meanwhile, Alaska will continue to uncover the cosmic mysteries behind the current events.
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